DON'T Throw Away Your Old Router

2.03.2021
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  • Old phobes do do that and tether to the -79 80 db but actually newer devices auto switch to the highest in range ap as long as all in unidon and allnhave differ channels rather than the same channel, checkmiut ddwrt's mesh wifi or tomato akternative firmare, i tested this after that post on ltt episode on hidethecorn

    Smitty DomingoSmitty Domingo7 tuntia sitten
  • That 54g lol

    Smitty DomingoSmitty Domingo7 tuntia sitten
  • Keep all wifi aps on the same subnet and change the last octect, and then subnetmask to the /24

    Smitty DomingoSmitty Domingo7 tuntia sitten
  • I thin asus also might do it

    Smitty DomingoSmitty Domingo7 tuntia sitten
  • DD-WRT, = LINKSYS 1900AC 4X THE SPECULAR

    Smitty DomingoSmitty Domingo7 tuntia sitten
  • u sound a bit like linus tech tips LOLLLLL

    ScorpzScorpz11 tuntia sitten
  • i have a thousan routers lying around my house

    Marcus CasañasMarcus Casañas2 päivää sitten
  • The video just made me decide not even to try that lol

    Devarsirat dasDevarsirat das2 päivää sitten
  • this is just one of the reasons why mesh-products is a scam. aside from WDS, most recent routers have Repeater mode.

    zodiacfmlzodiacfml4 päivää sitten
  • I'm making a NAS from an old computer, and I didnt want to run a looooong ethernet cable. I'll give this a try

    Red JayRed Jay6 päivää sitten
  • Whats a mac address?

    Gregory HomatasGregory Homatas14 päivää sitten
  • Don't throw away that old router ONLY if it still works reliably. I removed a Netgear WGR614 Wi-Fi router from service in my house within the last year because it would frequently hang, requiring a power-down reboot. I wouldn't use such equipment as a repeater, even if it is lying around and essentially "free".

    Milosz OstrowMilosz Ostrow14 päivää sitten
  • Great I wish I saw this a couple years ago 🙄

    Jacob Smith JrJacob Smith Jr14 päivää sitten
  • i was using the wrong channel settings 3 years ago when i was trying to do this. Thank you for reviving this project for me!

    Technodude255Technodude25516 päivää sitten
  • Does this work with a gateway?

    Ella AbroseElla Abrose16 päivää sitten
  • Wow. So what about security? Oh that's always a secondary thought. So I guess WPA is good enough?

    Mike's Tech TalksMike's Tech Talks16 päivää sitten
  • Followed the same steps, saw the video probably 10 times. Connected the second router to my pc, doesn't work. Says no internet even though my first(primary) router is working fine.

    Ariz KamalAriz Kamal17 päivää sitten
  • This sounds like a manually configured bridge? Orrrrr, is a bridge an automatically configured WDS?!?!? In any case, Bravo! Don't waste that router!

    Carlos GomezCarlos Gomez19 päivää sitten
  • " flash backs " ... don't even took about it 😭😀

    Ali AhmadAli Ahmad19 päivää sitten
  • I don't know what you're saying, I'm going to have to go over this video a few more times

    Tommy VTommy V20 päivää sitten
  • For the love of all tech please research....1) Wds should never be used. 2) multiple dhcp servers can exist fine on 1 network, as long as the scope is different. Ie router 1 = 192.168.1.0/24 and 10.0.0.0/24.

    Zade KeysZade Keys21 päivä sitten
  • 3:54 my sons ethertnet cable is like this. but its not as bright red as it once was after a couple years of sunlight.

    Victor MucklestonVictor Muckleston21 päivä sitten
  • I don't throw mine out either. They usually go bad. I thought you were going to tell me something good to do with one that doesn't work any more. For instance. My last router started losing connection once it got too warm.

    Kevin DondreaKevin Dondrea22 päivää sitten
  • I used my tp link router as a repeater way back in 2018

    Aditya SidhamAditya Sidham24 päivää sitten
  • Sound good but to techy to understand for a simple soul like me

    Thomas CatfordThomas Catford26 päivää sitten
  • what a right time you uploaded the video I'm trying to use my secondary as a repeater and screwed everytime 😂

    Ajay SasikumarAjay Sasikumar27 päivää sitten
  • The bigger problem with old routers is that they are typically EoL and generally riddled with security vulnerabilities. So, unless a user is willing to manually build a minimal WDS distro of OpenWrt (or something) that will still fit/run on their router, you're using it at risk.

    triularitytriularity28 päivää sitten
  • I've never known about that: it can be useful for connecting devices with no wifi functionalities to a smartphone using it as a router (tethering)

    MKA667MKA66728 päivää sitten
  • MAC users and DHCP... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

    rskeyesfulrskeyesful28 päivää sitten
  • thank you very much, was looking for some advice since i recetlly bought a new repeater these days

    PathOf MeleePathOf Melee29 päivää sitten
  • How about having a cheap wire only router and connect 2 or more wireless routers to it ( by cable and set them as ap)? I think Linus did something like that at home ( but with professional parts)...

    Florin PandeleFlorin PandeleUukausi sitten
  • please do more of these tutorials. Most of these on youtube are some 12-year-old kid with a shitty mic and we could all use the LMG pollish.

    Alex BowenAlex BowenUukausi sitten
  • US: old router? Throw it out! Philippines: old router? Sell it!

    RD TVRD TVUukausi sitten
  • keep more such videos coming. i mean repurposing old devices

    bombaatfulbombaatfulUukausi sitten
  • Hey nice video, when are you guys doing something with OpenWRT ? it is a great way to give new life to an old router, or new ones for that matter. Linux on your toaster next!

    Agustín AlexanderAgustín AlexanderUukausi sitten
  • O.K... Back in the 2000, maybe a good nice trick to extend your network. But today, with MESH tecnology, WDS is do overcooked... Sorry, my opinion, but beeing in Germany, with most ISP routers from the company AVM, you could setup a MESH enviroment (with mesh steering, becoming better with every release). But the main message stays the same: Don't throw away your old router, unless it does not even support decent WLAN (it should be at least WiFi4, my opinion)

    Axel RitzauAxel RitzauUukausi sitten
  • But how do you share folders or RDP between routers?

    Andrew SongAndrew SongUukausi sitten
  • That Yakuza: Like a Dragon cable insert though...

    Zantetsuken’s DaoZantetsuken’s DaoUukausi sitten
  • Thought this was about OpenWRT

    xXTHEPASCALXxxXTHEPASCALXxUukausi sitten
  • thanks

    Elite EngineerElite EngineerUukausi sitten
  • I did this 2 years ago 🙄

    FH TechFH TechUukausi sitten
  • 2:12 Pakistan...?

    rohaan Omarrohaan OmarUukausi sitten
  • I use an old router as a second Wifi hotspot with the same SSID as the main to extend the Wifi reach. I've never heard of WDS though, I didnt enable it. So when I saw this I thought it might get rid of the fact that (see video @ 3:33) devices hang onto a signal as it gets weaker rather than swapping to the (now stronger one) as I walk round the house. I though I could save the price of a Mesh but I think not :( Or does anyone know a "mesh-free" way?

    Brownie McBrownfaceBrownie McBrownfaceUukausi sitten
  • Rachel Maddow with a mustache !

    Wally GatorWally GatorUukausi sitten
  • I went from 100% to 0% real quick

    Sinan HaddadSinan HaddadUukausi sitten
  • I've tried this before, seemed Comcast didn't like it (got a "This device is paused" message in place of any web pages and had to call Comcast to get them to 'unpause' it.) So you know, be sure that whatever your primary router being used is actually fully controlled by you and not your ISP and that your ISP won't object to it. If you do run into an ISP-provided modem/router that won't let you do bridging without freaking out, you can just nab a Raspberry Pi (any will do as long as they have wifi capability and an ethernet port) and do a bit of configuration with iptables and enabling some forwarding rules/setting wifi as the default way to get an internet connection (otherwise the Pi will always try to get internet via ethernet even if there's no route to the internet via ethernet) and with about 15 minutes of work you can get it to forward your wifi connection over the ethernet port. At that point you can just set it up as a gateway device for another router or whatever and stuff will be able to use it to get an internet connection. Bonus is that this segments the network so anything on the ethernet side of the pi isn't forwarded to the wifi side of the Pi, so you can roll your own DHCP server (and other potentially conflicting services), so in the end it worked better in my situation (where I have roommates who wouldn't have appreciated me doing that), and I'm able to use my old WiFi router as just a thing for my own devices and still have internet for them. This comes with another benefit since, as Riley says, WiFi can't really transmit and receive at the same time, I can sit there and do large file transfers between my servers/computers while my roommates are streaming videos and I don't get a performance hit, they don't get a performance hit, and it just saves a lot of grief.

    Christian PateChristian PateUukausi sitten
  • Check the DHCP Range then assign an IP outside that range, if you have a 24/ Network or the subnetmask is 255.255.255.0 then the whole IP range that is available for Clienst is from .1 to .254 NOT 255 So check which IP your primary router has, check the DHCP Range and assgin the next free ip 255 is the broadcast IP and can't be assigned

    BashBashUukausi sitten
  • "Wrong port"

    TheGalacticWestTheGalacticWestUukausi sitten
  • This video auto-played and it scared me

    The CradleThe CradleUukausi sitten
  • I did this once a long time ago, now I tried many times...it didn't work.

    Emiko SuzukiEmiko SuzukiUukausi sitten
  • Just seen another video where the guy took 25 minutes to explain the same thing.

    Lawrence AllwrightLawrence AllwrightUukausi sitten
  • I suspect that WDS between different makes wont work very well its better to use powerline and use a physical DS - just set the second router to have a static IP and work in AP mode. (oh and avoid tplink like the plague) of and set the same ssid/password but set the second AP to a non overlapping channel

    Maurice WalsheMaurice WalsheUukausi sitten
  • I wish that was my old router

    Wessie_ZAWessie_ZAUukausi sitten
  • Region: Pakistan Never felt such proud😤

    Hashim AhmadHashim AhmadUukausi sitten
  • old old news zzzzz

    Dan RDan RUukausi sitten
  • And then there is FritzBox which supports it without tedious configurations. Noice

    Dei_NemuddaDei_NemuddaUukausi sitten
  • 10.0.0.0/8 master race

    strawhousepigstrawhousepigUukausi sitten
  • I've tried this in the past but was told that it basically splits the bandwidth of your Main router in half. Not sure how or why or even if it's true.

    Vacation. PlsVacation. PlsUukausi sitten
  • But I'll have to buy a new faraday cage though... no wait I'll just put them in there together

    Miles GerschefskeMiles GerschefskeUukausi sitten
  • This probably has been said but please no not in the dhcp range it will cause headaches when you get IP conflics

    Sensei FreakSensei FreakUukausi sitten
  • my router uses 192.168.254.x get yo info right, or qualify the statement to include other possibilities

    James AdamsJames AdamsUukausi sitten
  • That "cables everywhere" bit made me feel personally attacked.

    SlickStretchSlickStretchUukausi sitten
  • I did the same thing 1 month back, life saver

    Neeraj KumarNeeraj KumarUukausi sitten
  • Dear Riley ! Apki Video bhala mai kase dislike kr sakta oo 😍😍😍😍

    Mujahid Hussain RanaMujahid Hussain RanaUukausi sitten
  • The video could do with a heads-up about security issues like sticky devices (e.g. a tablet, laptop) you have trouble removing, and ROP-Attacks on older routers. Some of these things can be resolved, but do be aware of it firstly. If you're going to do this, sometimes it is better used where you've made a smoothwall or slackware server (from a PC) as the first "router".

    ObsoletePowerCorruptsObsoletePowerCorruptsUukausi sitten
  • I had to throw away my old router. It would only work with Verizon FiOS and is slower than the one they rent now.

    Uthman BakshUthman BakshUukausi sitten
  • haha, imagine living in a place where your wlan doesn't cover you whole living space.

    EvolorEvolorUukausi sitten
    • And for some reason, my WLAN (2.4Ghz) reaches almost my local corner store at 100m away, and is still somewhat usable 50m away (at a open park)...

      ThewonderjamThewonderjamUukausi sitten
  • This video it makes it look so easy until you realize by configuring your routers that you've summoned some diabolic IPs that weren't suposed to assign to your PC and now your router portal fade into oblivion.

    Mini tomateMini tomateUukausi sitten
  • as a developer i prefer the 172.16.x.x internal ip address space as it's less used

    Alice KnagAlice KnagUukausi sitten
  • I have several old routers around with WDS and this has never worked for me. I know I do it right (or maybe not) because I understand the logic behind and my devices connected to the "repeater" say that they're connected to internet, but don't do anything. So I gave up.

    Richard MumfordRichard MumfordUukausi sitten
  • I liked the video.

    Charles ReynoldsCharles ReynoldsUukausi sitten
  • Caution! On some recent (Asus RT-AC57U V2) as well as not so recent (Netgear R7000), WPS supports WEP/Open only!

    Peter PepoPeter PepoUukausi sitten
  • 3:17 "your speed will be roughly cut in half" !! Like if my internet speed is just 8mbps will my 5Ghz WDS second router will get to me 4mbps only! No way; the correct thing to say is, it will reach half the maximum capable wifi speed, like my 5Ghz router reaches 300mbps normally now on WDS it can reachs up to 150mbps if my internet connection allow for it of course. Right guys?

    TawahaTawahaUukausi sitten
    • Examples, if my internet speed is: -100mbps, I will get 100mbps on my PC via wifi. -200mbps, I will get only 150mbps. Ok, How about if my PC is connecting to the 2nd router via ethernet cable? I will get the full 200mbps.

      TawahaTawahaUukausi sitten
  • My extender (and old router) have WPS connection functions.

    i7Babyi7BabyUukausi sitten
  • I had this setup at home its the worst! Your phone will hold onto the last bar of signal even though there is stronger signal closer by. You can buy a TP link 3 pack mesh wifi kit for 200 aud in usd thats probably a big Mac. Well worth the investment

    Chris WatersChris WatersUukausi sitten
  • uhhh...this news in 2021 ? wtf ! I have this setup for years in my house.

    ItsMe NoNameItsMe NoNameUukausi sitten
  • If use that ip big trouble that my ip

    George OgradyGeorge OgradyUukausi sitten
  • Get a powerline adaptor with Ethernet ports and Wi-Fi. Recommend a TP Link AV600 Kit or similar item.

    Lesley SchultzeLesley SchultzeUukausi sitten
  • > DON'T Throw Away Your Old Router > Many modern wireless router... pick one. It's also an extremely rarely supported feature

    LaurazepamLaurazepamUukausi sitten
  • Use a CABLE not a REPEATER

    tutacattutacatUukausi sitten
  • What is the difference with wireless bridge mode?

    sntg_psntg_pUukausi sitten
  • This is how I keep an old apple TV alive! Stupid thing works better that way than it did as my primary router years ago.

    Kevin BourassaKevin BourassaUukausi sitten
  • Can someone suggest a wireless headsets that charges over usb C I'm looking for one, but I cannot find any :O

    K. Van DijckK. Van DijckUukausi sitten
  • Sounds good in theory, but pretty unreliable in practice.

    Kel HKel HUukausi sitten
  • I wonder, how many people actually have a non-ISP router(-modem combo)? I know almost no-one who has one, only some tech-enthusiasts like myself

    Wouter VerbruggenWouter VerbruggenUukausi sitten
  • Okay but like what if you want to set up WiFi networking to the other side of the yard Wirelessly (Mainly for Online Gaming)

    Moeketsi MolotoMoeketsi MolotoUukausi sitten
  • Why did I watch this? I've been used this technique to get coverage in my garage for years now.

    Eric DEric DUukausi sitten
  • WDS is crap for many reasons. Connecting multiple APs with Ethernet cable works like a charm!

    Mind JamMind JamUukausi sitten
  • very useful

    BlueIceC4BlueIceC4Uukausi sitten
  • ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    William HouseWilliam HouseUukausi sitten
  • A few correction about the 192.168 private IP range. 3rd octet can be in the range of 0 to 255. While the 4th can be in the range of 1 to 254. As 0 and 255 are reserved for the network address and broadcast address respectively. So you cannot use those 2.

    Louis OuelletLouis OuelletUukausi sitten
  • i have a question. If the main first router is off, will your second wifi repeater still be on and still be able to connect to the wifi?

    Agent PurpleAgent PurpleUukausi sitten
  • Did this with my routers, and the wifi slowed to a crawl, way under 1/2. They didn't like each other. Separate networks made it so much quicker.

    Beefsticks WellingtonBeefsticks WellingtonUukausi sitten
  • Running a cable is a lot easier.

    Chip RayChip RayUukausi sitten
  • wtf. I literally googled ethernet cable to buy today to get wifi access to the other side of the house. This shit just saved me so much time and money

    FitAndGamingFitAndGamingUukausi sitten
  • I use my old Asus router as an access point connected to my new router by ethernet. The speeds are much better this way.

    VoxorinVoxorinUukausi sitten
  • to bad the title of this video means I will never remember or find it when I decide to do this

    Stag ArkStag ArkUukausi sitten
  • why is this guy so fake?

    Turican76Turican76Uukausi sitten
  • For anyone who tries this and can't get it to work -- give up and move onto another solution. WDS isn't standardized and there are often compatibility issues between different products. Hell, there can be compatibility issues between the same products (with different internal revisions).

    LordFluxLordFluxUukausi sitten
  • I've been using open source Linux based firmware to allow me to use old routers as wireless bridges for years. Often there will be a setting in this firmware to switch the WAN port to a LAN port and allow you to use it as well, but you do have to check that box if you want to take advantage of that feature. I currently favor openwrt if available for the hardware, though I have one wireless bridge running dd-wrt. I actually run openwrt on my main router as well.

    CFWhitmanCFWhitmanUukausi sitten
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