this is disgusting. anyone standing by this is disgusting. go and send thumin some love
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I want to thank you so much for shedding light on my situation Shannon. I've been having to deal with countless of racists throwing slurs at me or telling me to die for a good 6 months now, all because they couldn't handle me drawing myself as an anime charecter. What bothers me the most is the fact that when i finally had it and decided to stand up for myself by speaking up, i was punished. Instagram took down both of my posts advocating against racism and deemed them "hate speech". They gave me a warning that my account may get deleted if i continue to speak up. Meanwhile the accounts i reported for calling me slurs and telling me to pick c/tton were not breaking instagrams TOS apperently? It's ridiculous. So again, thank you for adding ur voice to mine. It means the world to me!! 😭💕
I'm so sorry you have to go through this
Don’t let them bring you down.
That doesn't surprise me. Instagram is run by the same idiots who run Facebook and I got warned and postblocked on Facebook three times for: calling out Facebook for taking down a post about the racist guy who got bashed by a Twisted Tea can to the face, calling out a sexist piece of shit, and calling out a racist catfisher. But when I reported a comment on Facebook where a guy literally said that black people deserved to get shot? "We understand this comment is upsetting but it's not against our terms of service" H O W ?
From what Creepshow art said about you and your art is that your amazing.. .. in reality, your a ton more incredible
i’m so sorry i had to go through this. you are sure as hell one of the last people to deserve it. people are disgusting, and rude. i hope the internet will learn common human decency... i’m proud of you tho for pulling urself through all this. you are such a lovely creator.
*As a person of color,this sounds so sad. I think I watched Thumin once but I'll check her channel again. From a brief overview of her channel,I think I have found another ytuber to sub to and love.*
Question. Is it wrong to beat a racist?
I love Thumin’s art but the one thing I never agreed with her about is how blackwashing is okay and whitewashing is not (I know this video isn’t about blackwashing)
i hate when racism is also in art it makes it so sad i wish it was not a thing everyone is amazing no matter what race and i hope people stop attacking black and other poc artists because its not fair and very dangrouse
To Me I Would Draw Fan Art To Make Myself I Won't Use The Main Character As Me I Would Make A Character Of Myself
Really, what is the problem with people?
This is why content creators such as v-tubers who are faceless on the internet choose to be represented by using a 2D or 3D FICTIONAL character. What did black people ever do to other people? If you are not able to give a valid answer to that question, the just shut up.
I love how racists code anime characters as white. It’s fucking pathetic.
I gotta be honest, when I saw the thumbnail and the title, I thought you were against her. I'm relieved
Ohhhhh my god I read the thumbnail and title and freaked out thinking she did something cuz I love her art too 💕
It's an adorable piece of art! I can't believe people would do horrible things because of it.
YESSIR! Spread the word, these racists are going *D👏🏾O👏🏾W👏🏾N* . Like how can these people litterly do this to an innocent person who did NOTHING wrong. They are the ones who are dong this and causing all of this negativity. (I STRONGLY care about this situation as I am a person of color as well) Anyway, Love you Thumin!
I once got told "this is why black ppl shouldn't draw" Nd tbh it broke me :/ but im thankful my followers had my back
Wait people saying you should be happy youre being stalked tf
I checked out one of her videos, your right she’s amazing
It's disgusting how people think that just because they're on the internet it's okay to be a living piece of shit, poor Thumin.
its just because they look similar except for the skin. they thought it was blackwashing. which is a little bit understandable. but still bad.
all those people complaining about her "blackwashing" kiki are reminding me of how people will try to police black cosplayers who want to cosplay a character that is not black in the show. Like, who cares? They're not white either but white people are allowed to cosplay as them without being harassed.
Racists: Snowflake Also racists: Reeeeeee stop blackwashing!
One of you close friend is trans and is Constantly called slurs at are school and get stuff chucked at there head all the time just because they are different.
"You should be flattered someone drew a drawing based on your drawing" said to an artist, getting hate for a drawing based on another drawing, taking about the hate she's getting. When her drawing was "I like and relate to this character so I drew myself as her" and theirs was "I can't believe you made the character like yourself so I'm going to take that drawing and caricaturize you by harmful racial stereotypes" One of these drawings is flattering to the original and it's Thumin's
Why do racism and discrimination even exist in the first place? Bullying someone because of how they look, because of how they act, because of any mental and/or physical disabilities they might have, etc. is wrong. I've been bullied because I'm different from the rest of my school mates from back in elementary school, middle school, and high school, but I can only imagine how much worse it would have been if I was black. I can't even begin to imagine how much worse it must be for the transgender members of the LGBT+ community either. The way I see it, there's only 1 race, the human race. It shouldn't matter if we're black, white, beige, or orient descent. It shouldn't matter if we're straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans, or whatever else we might identify as within the LGBT+ community. Our happiness is what matters the most. I can't stand the fact that so many people make such a big deal about everyone's differences because those shouldn't matter as long as no one is intentionally getting hurt because of those differences. At the end of the day, we're all human beings, and if you're going to be racist, sexist, or what-have-you, then keep those toxic opinions to yourselves. Sisi ni sawa, which means we're the same. We may be different on the outside, but our skeletons are all white regardless of what color our skin is. Would you racists be saying the same thing or something similar about a white artist drawing themselves in place of a black character? Whether you do or not, that's your problem. It's never the problem or the fault of the artist. If y'all don't have an issue with a white artist drawing themselves as Pocahontas, Princess Tiana, or Prince Naveen for example, then why should you have a problem with someone such as Thumin or another black artist drawing themselves as Kiki, Rapunzel, or King Triton? The answer is that you shouldn't have a problem with a black artist drawing themselves as a white character when you most likely don't have an issue with a white artist drawing themselves as a black character. FUCK RACISM AND FUCK RACISTS, THESE SHOULD *NEVER* HAVE EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Can we just ask why they came at that drawing? Like I love KiKi and wouldn't change her- but that drawing looked just as good as the original (maybe better), if I drew myself as Katara (from Avatar: The Last Airbender) I doubt anybody who saw it would come at me
Has anyone ever heard of cosplay bam people leave that wonderful person alone you girl for giving her love
I've seen so many people + black people drawing themselves as anime characters so idk she is getting so much hate. To all the people attacking her FU*K YOU!😡
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I will never understand the hate for the Kiki drawing. I’m Japanese and that movie is literally my childhood and I think the picture is adorable and I don’t find it offensive at all
I'm so glad you weren't making a bad video about Thumin. 😌
BLACKWASH IS NOT A THING!!!! THE REASON WHITEWASHING IS A THING, AND A PROBLEM IS BECAUSE IT PERPETUATES THE IDEA THAT EURO-CENTRIC FEARURES ARE MORE ATTRACTIVE OR GENERALLY BETTER. WHITEWASHING IS WHITE PEOPLE CONTINUING TO ERASE VISIBILITY OF POC. SO AGAIN, BLACKWASHING IS NOT A THING!!!!!!!!
1:13 That's like when people treat r@pe as a compliment because, "well, you must be really attractive/they must have just liked you so much," um, no. Something that HARMS you, your choice being taken away is NOT a compliment, it is NOT a badge of pride. STOP GLORIFYING ABUSE.
i thought this was gonna be thumin slander, so glad that it isn't
yeaa same
I don’t get how that’s blackwashing it’s a self insert you can do anything with a self insert that’s so dumb I don’t get it.
What a privalaged person they get to be stalked. -sarcasm
I love all people of color we are all beautiful I hope this girl is doing ok I wish people weren't so bad how I thought people could do better I guess not
This is just messed up All People of color should be appreciated and loved because they are just like us I hope everyone is doing alright
OMG like she didnt make herself kiki in the movie every witch wears the same clothes like wth
Kiki is Asian...she’s Japanese? What the fuck is wrong with people, she’s just changing some aesthetic features to fit herself. (Ofc skin color is more than just a feature these days...sadly)
With that logic, nobody but the Japanese should be able to do this- exactly, it makes no sense.
I 100% don’t agree with this racist bullying but I think the backlash comes from how people have been so upset about how some artists have been bullied off the internet for drawing characters of colour with slightly lighter skin. Now I don’t think this is the correct way of dealing with this issue because bullying is never okay, but I think there needs to be a conversation about how the colour of a characters skin really doesn’t matter, weather it’s black or white or anything in between, I think we all need to let people express what they wish through their art instead of being triggers over someone drawing a character with dark or light skin, I think it’s childish to be so upset over either side... I do hope Thumin will be okay and I hope she continues to create such beautiful art despite the harassment ❤️
Blackwashing isn’t really a thing. The term was thrown around when racists didn't like being accused of whitewashing so like "reverse racism" it just kinda built onto itself with no real base of an argument
That’s pretty sad that people are racist
all community's have terrible people but its about the good people in the community
All ARTIST or content creator not only black, everyone, should rise up and draw edit whatever came in mind themselves in place of characters we like, and stay besides Thumin, we can't live in 2021 and still have all these problems, seems like BLM was a joke if now people tell other to off-themselfs only because they're black, this really need to stop
The people harassing Thumin said she was being racist, even thought THEY were. Such hypocritical behavior...
Thank you so much for calling this out!
I clicked this video because I am subbed to Thumin and I think she is a great black artist but also what is with racism it's unreasonable because the person cant change what they look like and people hating on black people isn't helping and I find the racist people on earth disappointing. If I met a racist person I would tell them what they are: selfish pieces of crap
i give the fuck up on humanity
My heart dropped when you read out the DM. This is disgusting and I honestly can't believe people can be this horrible to others, especially when they are doing what they love and creating beautiful art. Just let people do what they want and be happy. I don't understand why people have a problem with that.
When people said it's black-washing, I lost brain cells, Thumin didn't Black-wash any character, she drew herself as a character, but I'm surprised most white artists (if they did the exact same thing) wouldn't get that much hate, even though most of the anime and ma gas are obviously Japanese or from some part of Asia.
Hey I just want to say thank you for spreading awareness for this racism on the internet I really appreciate it
it is literally so sad that we live on the same world with racists.
I respect you and your journey 💯 keep rising awareness on so many ways.
0:57 How is this person sending you this really say this. They're not a clown, there the whole dang circus
I don't get it, what's the big deal about skin color. Its just a matter of genetics and melanin in general? What was the beginning of racism and why does it exist. Can I get an answer?
How I see it Black people : BLM Racists : ALM Black people : whitewashing Racists : blackwashing Black people : talks about racism Racists : racism doesn't exist See we can't have shit we can't do shit. 🤦🏽♀️
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its a bummer you didnt do your research on the video where shes drawing that picture
Why are you standing up for her she literally was asking for it.
@· FizzyPop · lol sis you turned off all your comments bc logical people will come after you, you called black people sensitive but you cant keep comments on. Ur one of the most annoying and unfunny trolls I've seen. Your like six yr you shouldn't even have a platform, do your parents know? Btw it's past you're bedtime💗
@풀다LoveYourself Nah you should.
@Banana GamerCat No I dont
Girl you called her and other black women The nword then called it criticism and posted that bs on youtube stfu.
Let me guess, you say the same to survivors of SA?
People disgust me, if i ever meet someone like that i would ignore them until i can't and leave.
why people dont get she didnt turn kiki into a black person she draw HER self
do people not realise kiki is also a woman of colour, not white? she's literally japanese
I can't move on this because im a one
Wow how narcissistic and racist tf-
Immediately subscribed to her channel after watching this video and followed her Instagram I really hope this hate stops
Alrernative title: Snowflakes being snowflakes to a creative person
What app do you use to make art?
It honestly pains me to think that these sh*t stains on the underwear of humanity are actual people with actual F--ked up morals.
İ WAS SO SCARED YOU WERE GONNA SAY SMTH NEGATİVE ABOUT THEM CUS İ RLLY LOVE THEM-
Okay, NOW IM FUCKIN' PISSED. HOW CAN SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING????? Fuckin' disgusting.
Lmao wtf🏃🏽♀️
I’ve been subbed to thumin for quite a while now and this video made me so happy :)
Those dislikes are from racist people that don't like this video, and I agree with Shannon, screw the haters!!
umm, Im losing braincells rn
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How dare this amazing talented artist show her culture in phenomenal art!
I thought you were hating on thumin-
i feel like if someone drew kiki or any studio ghibi character with more Japanese/asian characteristic (tan skin ect ik not every Japanese person looks the same) they would get mad
Another example of "Yep, that's Twitter for you" or "Welcome to Twitter, where your general self expression is being kept lock/oppressed". But really? It never seems to failed me for being redundantly ridiculous at such minor things sometimes. One point, some of them would probably starts saying "Well, this whole thing wouldn't have gotten like this if it weren't for you" and all of us leaving them with "No, this wouldn't happen if you don't even make a hot take on such tiny things in the first place!!"
What app do you use for your art?
Thx!
She's using MediBang
Racist: Ugh you're a snowflake be grateful! Also racist: **HAS A FULL MELT DOWN BECAUSE OF A DRAWING**
oh thank god. i thought this was going to be a video calling out thumin. scared the crap out of me. thanks for showing her some love! she doesn’t deserve any of this. ❤️
She is a beautiful artist, she is a lot of my inspiration. Thumin wasn't seeking their validation on her art, and she can draw whatever she wants. Nobody asked them to re-make her art, nobody asked them to comment such idiotic words in such. No one cares about their opinions. Because your hurtful words make no difference or stop her from making her art, they can just shut the [ __ ] up :) The haters are like a leaf trying to stop an ocean from flowing. They do nothing, if they think they can stop her from doing what makes her happy they must be using 1 braincell or maybe less! I love her art, and would never say such things to such a talented being. At least she has some kind of talent, so just STOP and appreciate the people who inspire.
Imagine telling someone to be grateful that they get bullied online and told to kys. Twitter is such a toxic place, this is why so many creators leave that site. I've been bullied before, but I can't even imagine how Thumin feels having so many racist people on her back. Her art is so pretty and this is all so ridiculous
I loved Thumin's how to color a POC, since I never knew how and I never colored a POC
how the fuck is ANYONE going to justify for racism? Like bruh this is crazy! Btw Thumin you're cool, you've inspired me to make a channel with art related stuff in it God bless
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you're fucking amazing
The thumbnail and title of the video is purposefully misleading
yea lol
so this haves nothing to do with this but what program do you use to draw?
@CreepShow Art Thanks miss , btw love your art and commentary , thank you for enlightening this situation and amplifying her voice ,this isn't right , racism isn't right and you've really help made people understand , and btw have a wonderful day/night miss.
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as a Mexican who used to draw themselves as characters (Ash(Pokemon) , Tenya(MHA) , etc-) I got called slurs and a bunch of racist comments " go back and jump the border you stupid ape" " Donald Trump should've killed you off lmaoo " etc this hurts me , deeply.
I hope you are doing well ma'am/sir , don't listen to those idiots using racism to gain clout , because they think that their idiocy wouldn't be called out . I hope you , your friends and your family are doing well in this pandemic and have a wonderful day/ night ma'am /sir!
This situation shows racist are dumb and cruel at the same time Dumb cause they thing an artist changed the race, even when the artist said it was their character dressed as that one and in a scene And cruel that it wasn't about the movie, it was just to out down an artist of different nationality
are those the same people that say "you should be happy an older man likes you and did that to you ANY girl would want that" Uhmm...what girl? who?? please tell me who I'll like to know
It just seems she got caught up and confused as being part of those twitter artists who "fix" character designs. People should have been able to see it is a self insert and nothing about "fixing" the character. I guess you just get the people who just see the image and don't read the text, this obviously just promoted the racist are usually waiting for opportunities like this to justify any racist remark/act they do.
CUCKELSTILTSKIN I-
I've been drawing poc anime characters and im pretty good at it but now im wondering if i should continue it sucks people are so racist Why can't us poc artists draw ourselves in anime form?
I'm supporting her !! Her art is beautiful !!!
Isn't Kiki Asian? Because she's from Studio ghibli? Wouldn't people get angry if white people drew themselves as Kiki as well?
kiki aint even white??? shes asian??????
ok what the fuck i am so mad rn. this doesn't even make sense! none of their arguments make sense!
theres a diffrence between drawing yourself as a charcter who is different skinned from you and blackwashing... did people pay attention in school or do they not know how to use google or tell a diffrence
10:21 just when i thought i would not hate mrpumpkinface even more than i already do he moves on from racist comic book characters stereotyping black people to laughing at an actual black person being told to commit su!c!de for being black i would draw hate art featuring him but even that is too luxurious for a waste of space like mrpumpkinface