LGR Oddware - Tattooing CD-Rs with Yamaha DiscT@2

5.03.2021
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The Yamaha CRW-F1 drive from 2002 introduced the ill-fated Disc T@2 system, letting you "tattoo" CD-Rs. On the *DATA* side, not the label side! It lasted barely a year on the market before being discontinued, so yeah, let's dive into this bit of Oddware.
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  • "Colors may be cool, but the potential of a disc tattoo - is not..." =D In fact, the Yamaha DiscT @ 2 is a great piece of hardware for "Oddware". Thank you!

    Евгений ФедоровскийЕвгений Федоровский7 tuntia sitten
  • we barely saw it

    Small Hats Hate The TruthSmall Hats Hate The Truth2 päivää sitten
  • I had the HP Lightscribe lol

    Drew HubbardDrew Hubbard4 päivää sitten
  • Lightscribe discs are going for silly money in the UK right now, I found a load I'd long forgotten about and they sold on eBay within hours of listing.

    Casa SecurityCasa Security6 päivää sitten
  • Funny i built a gaming computer many years ago the only thing i never bought new was my cd/dvd drive and it came from my old desktop and.. well it has light scribe built into it

    SinfulSixSinfulSix8 päivää sitten
  • Would be interesting to see if you could manually remove the cd-r without triggering the software and try a cd-rw or remove the check for cd-r CDs from the software.

    Nathan LNathan L9 päivää sitten
  • 8:48 lmao verbatim cd s ps: i use the same cd verbatim :)

    bobbob9 päivää sitten
  • tee at two, this name makes no sense

    usermanuserman11 päivää sitten
  • Really appreciate the attention you pay to the captions! thanks for caring beyond the auto-generated ones.

    Matt GouletMatt Goulet11 päivää sitten
  • I think there might be some niche uses for the disc tattoo. One of them is security by deception; if you put a piece of paper inside a disc case or write in the case, its obvious people will see the password and use it to unlock the disc. However, if its tattooed on the disc, and its readable under just the right level of light, odds are nobody will look there for the password. Of course, good luck trying to tell someone how to find the password, chances are they'll forget and call you. They'll also call you if they can't read it or if its designed so poorly they have no clue where the password starts, whether a character is a letter or number or whether a letter is upper or lowercase.

    Fred AndersonFred Anderson12 päivää sitten
  • I remember to have had the IDE version of this as my very first CD burning capable drive. And I remember to found myself not getting this to work for regular CD burning at all. I guess I got it for free shortly after it was considered a flop or something. Got the Disc Tattoo feature working of sorts but it wasn't even visible enough to slightly impress anyone. Mt. Rainier Support? Made me think of Zak McKracken

    Grumpy L. SunshineGrumpy L. Sunshine12 päivää sitten
  • I did like seeing it

    SativaSativa12 päivää sitten
  • Those bright/dark blue die cds probably worked a lot better.

    Dana WDana W12 päivää sitten
  • i used to just sharpie on the unused part of the CD-R and honestly the results were better. and that only cost like 5 bucks

    Lauren CroneyLauren Croney12 päivää sitten
  • Well at least someone could hide their password to their vast fortune as a disc t@2. 😂

    Jack KrakenJack Kraken13 päivää sitten
  • I feel like this could be useful for custom "security holograms" for stuff. just cut the cd up when done.

    Simon the DelusionalSimon the Delusional13 päivää sitten
  • I had one!!!!

    oliveavelooliveavelo14 päivää sitten
  • RW's probably don't work because the laser might be turned up to "maximum cook" mode while doing the tattoo portion.

    RussellRussell15 päivää sitten
  • One thing this could be useful for is an authentication watermark. Burn a unique pattern onto the disc so if bootleg copies turn up it would be not too difficult to tell. Use the silver discs and people making copies aren't likely to notice the marking. It would probably show up really well on the old CD-Rs with Cyanine dye and a gold or "gold" reflective layer. Those were dark green.

    greggv8greggv815 päivää sitten
  • If only there were a better way

    An DAn D16 päivää sitten
  • I know it was just a gimmick for kids but God I miss that creativity manufacturers used to have.

    Absolute LongplayAbsolute Longplay16 päivää sitten
  • I immediately picture Dilbert, Wally and Alice assigned to this project, and thinking this product idea from corporate is terrible, and the idiots in marketing telling Dilbert to use an "@" symbol in the name design because that's what people do these days (in 2004).

    James TudsburyJames Tudsbury16 päivää sitten
  • *T E X T G O E S H E R E*

    Wire GuitarWire Guitar16 päivää sitten
  • MAkes so much sense to tattoo the fucking back of the CD WHERE NO ONE LOOKS XD try doing the front with a white background

    Gold FinaticGold Finatic17 päivää sitten
  • I think this could be interesting for some weird gimmick for some garage band to be special with their CDs. Ultimate DIY "copyright"

    Nervous HumanNervous Human19 päivää sitten
  • 11:22 *C O M I C* *S N ∀ S*

    michael15346michael1534619 päivää sitten
  • Kinda bothered you didn't try more things at one time, like text with no picture in the background, different colors to see which shows the best. I'm sure it'd be a similar result though. Neat stuff.

    igotdembombsigotdembombs19 päivää sitten
  • Oh, god, I completely forgot about Toast till you mentioned it.

    diebesgrabdiebesgrab19 päivää sitten
  • Nice video! Please, can you try the Liteon LabelTag technology? I'm so curious!

    Filippo PallonettoFilippo Pallonetto21 päivä sitten
  • 0:20 FFS... we are still in the early 2000'! We are the next 80 years still in the early 2000'! YOU as a tech lover should know that, you mean the 00' thats not the same! How often do i have to tell you that.

    TheClearSightTheClearSight21 päivä sitten
  • Back of the drive kinda looks like a piano keys, which is not accidental on Yamaha device, i guess :)

    Baka GēmuBaka Gēmu22 päivää sitten
  • I would love to see a LGR light-scribe thing

    Vro18Vro1822 päivää sitten
  • You can ride Yamaha, play Yamaha, sail with Yamaha, listen to Yamaha, burn using Yamaha

    I JI J22 päivää sitten
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    Bonnie BishopBonnie Bishop22 päivää sitten
  • How did microsoft put the holograms on their cd's?

    Shaun TateShaun Tate23 päivää sitten
  • I would like to see the results on the old black cd-r that were around the ps1 era :D

    EBZ MuffShuhEBZ MuffShuh23 päivää sitten
  • I like your jacket man

    dingle berrydingle berry23 päivää sitten
  • Even if it did work that seems to be rather pointless. When are you going to see it versus the top of the disk?

    ShadowWing TronixShadowWing Tronix24 päivää sitten
  • Compared to this hp lightscribe was a huge step up. But I guess that came much later. Even then it wasn't perfect.

    Lucky SevenLucky Seven25 päivää sitten
  • The last thing I expected to get nostalgic over was the personalized silver XP taskbar I suddenly remembered setting mine to as a kid.

    Evan [REDACTED]Evan [REDACTED]25 päivää sitten
  • I copied so many cd's on to those cool color cd-r's

    BandrosonkBandrosonk25 päivää sitten
  • Hey Clint, Could you upload the software used to make disct@2 discs? I can't find any links on the net

    CrossedCoderCrossedCoder25 päivää sitten
  • I thought I'd seen it all with Lightscribe, but this. Can't possibly imagine why it failed. (!)

    Lezlie NewlandsLezlie Newlands26 päivää sitten
  • I think I had one of those DVR-111D's in an old system I had. I gave the system to a friend so I can't be sure if it was.

    RikorageRikorage27 päivää sitten
  • Perhaps it could've been used as an anti-piracy measure. The T@2 printing marks its authenticity and scanning by T@2 reader for yeah you know.

    Joel Robert JustiawanJoel Robert Justiawan27 päivää sitten
  • This is great for a puzzle on a graphic adventure

    ZIPERREVERA!ZIPERREVERA!28 päivää sitten
  • totali cool sstuf ... tu bad it dinot pikt up . I didn't know it existed !!! interesting !! yes with the quality of the disc it is a probleam !!! Traduceți după introducerea vocală but the quality and detail of the tattoo is spectacula totali osam !!! for audio or mp3 audio cd or dvd you would have been a beast super cool ... Too bad it didn't pikt pu .

    Clau GM CMG AND PC STUF !!!Clau GM CMG AND PC STUF !!!28 päivää sitten
  • Hi Clint. Do you have any plans to cover old games and emulators on Tablets, spevifically android? It would be to hear your take on.emulators and non old pc hardware. Regards C.

    carly franklincarly franklin28 päivää sitten
  • Recently my VPN went down. Need it as I live in China. When I got a new VPN, I wrote a list of favorite channels with Clint's enthusiasm for all things retro and old. LGR was in the top ten. However, I am glad to see the back of CD. USB storage was a great innovation and is the near future. Way to go!

    carly franklincarly franklin28 päivää sitten
  • I wonder if this drive can burn audio CD-R's with CAV format so only 60 minutes of audio will fit. The pits are longer (Non-Standard) dependend on the position relative to the center. It is a YAMAHA audio CD standard.

    Robbert LucassenRobbert Lucassen29 päivää sitten
  • Its great for Encrypted disc storage with passwords.

    Robbert LucassenRobbert Lucassen29 päivää sitten
  • I did like seeing IT, fullstop ;)

    spavatchspavatch29 päivää sitten
  • I feel like combining this with LightScribe could make some very unique discs for some demos, music or scene. Plus all the other features of red book people overlook more often than not (indexes, CD-Text, pre-gap, and mixed mode audio/data).

    Nope@NopeNope@Nope29 päivää sitten
  • Seems like printing on the data side and not the label side would've been a deal breaker for me, if I wasn't at the age of 5 by 2002 lol

    Ryno MclaughlinRyno MclaughlinUukausi sitten
  • the biggest thing i miss about CD-rws, is idk if i'm crazy but most brand new packs of them smelled like maple syrup to me.

    EnoDevEnoDevUukausi sitten
  • 19:40 It could be useful for creating a clever clue for a game or an escape room or something.

    Gene QuagmireGene QuagmireUukausi sitten
  • 18:35 I'm legit surprised and offended there's no automatic scaling.

    Gene QuagmireGene QuagmireUukausi sitten
  • I think the patterns were there to make the letters more visible. When you took them out you were relying only on the outlines to be able to read the whole letter.

    Gene QuagmireGene QuagmireUukausi sitten
  • I wonder what it would look like on a PSX disc? EDIT: Thread says it doesn't work. bah humbug

    Gene QuagmireGene QuagmireUukausi sitten
  • I had a „Lightscribe“ drive. Never „lightscribed“ anything though.

    Joachim LehmannJoachim LehmannUukausi sitten
  • I worked in a recording studio back then, I used Verbatim super-Azo discs, and used to put a little logo on people's CDs when they got their preview mixes, and they loved it. IT wasn't well known even back then, and always surprised people. Simple b/w designs showed up quite well on the Super Azo discs, too

    Sion JonesSion JonesUukausi sitten
  • Those coloured CD-Rs are really pretty. Reminds me of the multi-coloured MiniDiscs that there used to be.

    Severity OneSeverity OneUukausi sitten
  • I was really sad that LabelFlash didn't take off...

    horus falconhorus falconUukausi sitten
  • COMIC SANS

    RomiWadaKatsuRomiWadaKatsuUukausi sitten
  • I still say lightscribe was better. You could use just any CDR but you had to be good at knowing how many hundreds of MBs used how much of the disc. My rule was I always used the last 1/2 inch of the disc for labeling, and never put more than 600 MBs on a disc. If you got it wrong the light scribe process after burning & flipping over the disc would make the disc/file not readable by a drive. But if you got it right it was the best way to label discs. You needed discs with a solid colored label side and didn't etch the label away to mark the brand name etc. That would always screw things up. We always bought discs with writing different color as the bottom of the discs. Or have as few as possible @ the edge.

    Andrew ChristiansenAndrew ChristiansenUukausi sitten
  • Made obsolete by the Sharpie

    hxhdfj ifzir st chxhdfj ifzir st cUukausi sitten
  • I remember around the mid 2000s that I wasn't able to see how much data had been written to CDs anymore. It was around the same time that CD's started failing their data verifications about 75% through. This happened in 3 different drives, using 3 different manufacturers of disks at every burning speed.. DVDs and CDRWs were always fine though, and you could clearly see how much of the disk was used as well. It's like they started using weaker burning lasers for CDRs when they started equipping them with DVD capabilities. I never could figure it out.

    Butt HeadButt HeadUukausi sitten
  • 17:22 "Yeah, this is just weird. Oddware-ception" Human.

    LiokardoLiokardoUukausi sitten
  • It is good for a cryptic message

    Ledwight LarosaLedwight LarosaUukausi sitten
  • excellent to send secrete messages!

    CookiesliyrCookiesliyrUukausi sitten
  • I love that Windows XP Logo And other 2010 market with i really like to see windows vista And 7 Logo bring back old Marketing style after watching that logo

    Lucky FixLucky FixUukausi sitten
  • I really did enjoy seeing it.

    ValValUukausi sitten
  • I need one of these.

    Fluffbutt EntertainmentFluffbutt EntertainmentUukausi sitten
  • 2:21 that bracketed “[disk tæ ’tu:]” bothers me a bit since (assuming that it’s meant to be a transcription into IPA, albeit with ⟨ˈ⟩ and ⟨ː⟩ swapped out for ⟨’⟩ and ⟨:⟩) that’d imply to me that “Disc” is meant to be read as something like “deesc”.

    Burning ElsenBurning ElsenUukausi sitten
  • I made like 5 discs with my cdr label thing. much less, never heard of data side labels

    Matt HanlonMatt HanlonUukausi sitten
  • Anyone got a link to that specific nero version? I have a labelflash drive and wanna try this out.

    Jayro JonesJayro JonesUukausi sitten
  • I am sure we have one of those drives in our office cupboard it was used to record video footage off old DM DVR.

    Stephen JonesStephen JonesUukausi sitten
  • What was the appeal for logos on the data side? Surely it wasn't something people were clamoring for

    KanzukiKanzukiUukausi sitten
  • It kindof looks like a nintendo wii. Who's with me on this?

    Plus UnuPlus UnuUukausi sitten
  • ah yes comic snas

    MissingNo0001MissingNo0001Uukausi sitten
  • I would like to see how to use Nero

    Amy jo JinkersonAmy jo JinkersonUukausi sitten
  • they weren't asking a lot for these devices

    Amy jo JinkersonAmy jo JinkersonUukausi sitten
  • My dad had one of those and would use it religiously. I used to have MP3 CDs with these barely visible labels, later he discovered lightscribe. This was a nice tech revisit.

    STG GamingSTG GamingUukausi sitten
  • FARTS

    SIDSIDUukausi sitten
  • I think LGR making our old and not great graphics spec to be the most modern item to use back then

    Adam MikailAdam MikailUukausi sitten
  • I was thinking first that this was something that was still compatible with the data of the disc; leaving it intact even though it burned something visible to the disc area. Much like sony using Black and then purple with PS1 and PS2 CD's respectively, there is actually very faint physical "coolness" and authenticity verification factor in PS2 DVD's of three Playstation logos that can be seen on the data side, faintly - in some discs EXTREMELY faintly and the first results in this video even are somewhat stronger than that. But yeah, if you somehow see this random comment and have some PS2 DVD games around; start looking at their data side against light there is indeed these logos in European, US and Asia/Japan discs alike!

    SumeaBizarroSumeaBizarroUukausi sitten
  • That ending was perfect haha "seeing it"...

    jcynavarrojcynavarroUukausi sitten
  • I Tattoo CD DVD with Pentelpen Permanent Marker

    Jay LimJay LimUukausi sitten
  • i have some really cheap cd-r disks which are super visible after burning that id love to try this with!

    Vine GreenVine GreenUukausi sitten
  • Can you please do some "GOODware" episodes = good hardware/software that is still useful today on old computers

    Kerry StevensKerry StevensUukausi sitten
  • I like the videos where you’re in the frame!

    Parker FiskarParker FiskarUukausi sitten
  • Clint, please consider posting your videos on Odysee in edition to FIworld. =)

    Reed's RedactionsReed's RedactionsUukausi sitten
  • Can you review The Sims 2?

    Ninjanash24Ninjanash24Uukausi sitten
    • I plan to!

      LGRLGRUukausi sitten
  • Great video Shite product!

    Powell LoosePowell LooseUukausi sitten
  • 5:28 What, I still have a couple of those NEC ND-3550A Drives. Never knew they could do disk tatooing

    koenigscatkoenigscatUukausi sitten
  • HAHAHAHA!! LimeWire! I remember customers bringing in their computers that were super slow and hardly working and I would put it on the bench while I was working at CompUSA and low and behold, an icon for LimeWire was on their desktop. So many customers I had to tell to remove that or format and restore their computer because there was sooo much crapware, junkware, viruses, etc from LimeWire! Thanks for the memories Clint! :D

    kato223kato223Uukausi sitten
  • Just thought of the only good use for this thing.... Watermarking. You're a company with many discs and want to have a physical copyright/authenticity thing... Just do this. As you said, barely noticable. Average person wouldn't notice it. And if a warranty claim or some other issue occurs, company can check this "watermark" to see if it's a legit disc or a bootleg.

    Felipe PubillonesFelipe PubillonesUukausi sitten
  • Nope, just Light Scribe. Cool idea on the surface, but definitely not well thought out since it took up usable space. And the final product was a waste of space and time. Not sure why Yamaha spent money developing for the DVD market when this was crap. Still, the pattern you burned with the ODDWARE logo at the end did look really cool. How much did that limit your usable space?

    Darrin GreenDarrin GreenUukausi sitten
  • 😆 I thought the @ was a typo in the title.

    MUMS-UniverseMUMS-UniverseUukausi sitten
  • perfect...PERFECT!!! I can finally go to sleep!

    Brad DyeBrad DyeUukausi sitten
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