Using Numbers To Find The Most Difficult NBA Championship Ever Won

17.10.2020
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  • My only thing is that he didn't state the srs value of the team that actually WON the chip. This value should be subtracted from all of the added srs to get a true look into how difficult the road to the chip was. Because that warriors team was so unbelievably good, it's insane.

    Jadonn WilliamsJadonn Williams7 minuuttia sitten
  • What if heat had won?

    Jerry ThomasJerry Thomas16 minuuttia sitten
  • A ring is still a ring

    King Leo2588King Leo258835 minuuttia sitten
  • Y’all lebron fans are so hypocritical it’s crazy, y’all hate on kd saying “oh his rings don’t count he didn’t earn it” but when lebron wins one of the easiest finals in nba history “winning is winning” right smh

    Bred 1sBred 1s38 minuuttia sitten
  • So what Still A ring for the Lakers

    King Leo2588King Leo258842 minuuttia sitten
  • I feel as tho MJ always had the harder path but the easier Finals. And LeBron had the easier path but the Harder Finals... LeBron Dragged his teams to Finals they had no business being in.

    Karim SelkridgeKarim Selkridge2 tuntia sitten
  • Yeah, this video just highlights how stats just can't be used to determine answers to such questions. And why the GOAT debate should never be raised above simple water cooler talk.

    The PhenomeThe Phenome2 tuntia sitten
  • i love this man cuz he always uses numbers to back himself up and never biases and narratives

    AryanAryan3 tuntia sitten
  • and they played a very Young 5th seed, not thst hard for prolly the 2 best players in the league

    mrblake09mrblake093 tuntia sitten
  • LONG LIVE THE GOAT 8️⃣2️⃣4️⃣🟣🟡

    Washington Road PedroWashington Road Pedro3 tuntia sitten
  • you missed the strength of the champions itself. Warriors in 2018 were way above others even if they matched today's Bucks (which was the best team in the reg season). best method would be to take the initial odds for the champions to pass the turn before all the 1st game and then multiply it. What you get is what was the odd of the team to win the championship (adjusted per the teams they faced). The team with the lower odd had the easiest run to the championship

    michael maghellamichael maghella5 tuntia sitten
  • Basketball FIworldr GOAT 🐐

    Artur KoschArtur Kosch5 tuntia sitten
  • It may look good but until you really explain the SRS system, it is just empty made up stats

    Khoa NguyenKhoa Nguyen6 tuntia sitten
  • why is it always about the RING? where in fact, trophy is the PRIZE for a championship? a ring is given by the franchise isnt it?

    aj veraj ver6 tuntia sitten
  • This just further proves my point that Kobe is higher in the GOAT debate than LeBron

    Martin HibbertMartin Hibbert7 tuntia sitten
  • the mavs gotta be higher than #6

    kamionkami1kamionkami17 tuntia sitten
  • I hate the premise that somehow nuggets and Miami are considered easier teams to beat than clippers and bucks. They beat them in 7 game series full health so they were obviously better. Therefore adding up this stat and making conclusions based on the final score is ridiculous.

    DzejDzej8 tuntia sitten
  • thanks for the video. It could be interessant to the who has the strongest opposition in the finals. And which team beat the odds.

    Archibald MoustacheArchibald Moustache8 tuntia sitten
  • As MJ Said talent is diluted in the NBA these days

    Jordan MirelesJordan Mireles9 tuntia sitten
  • there is no such thing as a “easy” championship and the people who say that just don’t know basketball

    Look at bron manLook at bron man11 tuntia sitten
  • Damn, even Kobe w/ Shaq had a difficult run for their 3-peat & then fairly difficult runs for his back-to-back championships in '09 & '10. Kobe truly was the 🐐

    Nate AmayaNate Amaya12 tuntia sitten
  • quality content.

    Professor PeleProfessor Pele12 tuntia sitten
  • The SRS system sounds good, but it's only part of the context, because teams 5 months later in the bubble played very different than teams before the bubble. The SRS can not explain how the Heat beat the Bucks by a landslide. If the Heat were such a "bad" team, how did they destroy the Eastern conference, and give Lakers the most trouble, needing 6 games to win the series? Or Portland who had a the worst SRS but were the hottest team in the bubble just before the playoffs? The 2017 championship, puts the SAS at a high score, but fails to factor in that Kawhi was injured in the first game, and then it was game over for the series. That run could not have been harder than Laker's run this year.

    Don LeeDon Lee12 tuntia sitten
  • So easy (to make the finals) that the Clippers can't do it.

    Andy NgôAndy Ngô13 tuntia sitten
  • bro 5 double ad breaks in a 9 minute vid? wtf

    Jack McDonoughJack McDonough13 tuntia sitten
  • this is why kobe is so underrated, he's behind MJ.

    TROLLTROLL15 tuntia sitten
  • This is why conferences should be abolished all together. Teams facing weaker teams in the finals than in the first round is bad fot the game. That's why they should just make a 30 team table with the top 16 in a playoff bracket.

    GCVlogs And StoriesGCVlogs And Stories16 tuntia sitten
  • Since this comment was conveniently deleted, thought i'd copy and paste it :)))) mpampisallos 3 days ago (edited) There are flaws to every stat but this one is full of them. And the thing is, some of them are easily fixable. 1) SRS by itself clearly doesn’t work as a metric. If you want to use something like this you need to have your own SRS adjusted upwards once you beat a team with higher SRS. When the Heat beat the bucks, their SRS should improve. How much it should improve should also take into account how easily or difficultly one team beats another team. 2) There needs to be some higher weighting towards the highest SRS team you won when you add up the SRS. I may have three easy rounds but one round where I beat the theoretically best team of all time. That ain’t an easy championship but would still land me around 15-20. It’s hard to weigh properly because it’s going to be arbitrary, but it needs to be captured. 3) My own SRS should matter. If I have SRS of 6 and I beat a team with SRS of 12, not only my SRS should be then adjusted upwards but my win should matter more than if my own SRS was 11 and I beat a team with 12. An easy fix for this is to use SRS ratios rather than absolute SRS. 4) Injuries. SRS needs to be adjusted for injuries during the playoffs. In theory last year’s Raptors beat the GSW who may have had a high SRS but had two of their star players injured during that match up. There are many more flaws that I’m too lazy to talk about. But this metric is absolutely flawed. So much that I don’t think it can be safely used even just to give any sense of direction. To give an example, if I had the greatest SRS of all time with a score of 82-0 and say an SRS of 15, I could sweep 4 equally worse teams with SRS of 6 each team and with everyone of these teams getting their players injured and this would be considered the toughest championship of all time.

    Kenneth MontureKenneth Monture17 tuntia sitten
  • #LakersIn5

    trev2xtrev2x17 tuntia sitten
  • Kobe and shaq were just built different.

    XxKing _DripxXXxKing _DripxX18 tuntia sitten
  • I hope you make good money from these videos. If so you deserve every penny.

    John McKeanJohn McKean19 tuntia sitten
  • 95 rockets as the 6th seed: Took out the number 3 seed Jazz with Stockton and Malone Took out the number 2 seed suns and Barkley Took out the number 1 seed 62 win spurs and season mvp Robinson Swept East number 1 seed magic and season too scorer shaq Greatest postseason team of all time, won a record 7 away games in that run and came back from 3-1 down to the suns... Mj may be the goat but man Hakeem is a better all round player than him n bron

    Lewi YonasLewi Yonas19 tuntia sitten
  • To be fair an easy ring isn’t decided by that team so it kinda doesn’t make sense if the lakers had faced the clippers and the bucks they would have had a high score but both of them choked and that’s not their fault so for me a ring is a ring no matter what

    Sergent LarivièreSergent Larivière19 tuntia sitten
  • So to answer the question, 2020 championship was not the easiest.

    Haize ZhangHaize Zhang20 tuntia sitten
  • Is not SRS only measuring the record of the teams they had to face in the playoffs? If true than this stat is just ridiculous...

    LeGMLeGM21 tunti sitten
  • I get that this is looking at all the teams that the champ beat on route to the ring. However the single most difficult team to beat in the playoff was the 73-wins warriors. Therefore for me, it’s the 2016 cavs.

    Nigel NeoNigel Neo21 tunti sitten
  • The problem with this video is that it does not take into account playoff SRS. To get a better idea of how difficult a road was to an NBA title, you can’t simply say a team was ‘this good’ based on regular season success. Case in point, using SRS logic, the bucks were a way better team than the heat this year. And by the same logic, the clippers were a better team than the nuggets. I don’t buy that SRS is a very good quantifier of playoff run difficulty. Also, take this example. What if Lebron had played four teams with an SRS of 5 each, or of 20 total. Or what if Lebron has played three teams with an SRS of 1, and then the all time great warriors in the finals who had an SRS of 11.35. Which road to a title is harder? Probably the one where Lebron has to play the warriors. Yet according to SRS logic, that isn’t true.

    Ben DavidsonBen Davidson21 tunti sitten
  • Love this video but now I'm seeing this video taken out of context on social media 🤦‍♂️ The "Mickey Mouse Ring" people are using it even more to bash the lakers winning the ring this year when your point was that at the end of the day a ring is a ring. But this chart is also inconsistent because the Warriors versed the Spurs and their rating was way too high since they didn't have Kawhi

    Patrick ColadillaPatrick Coladilla22 tuntia sitten
  • 2010-2011 Dallas Mavs easily

    Ivory BoldesIvory Boldes22 tuntia sitten
  • For the nth time, it’s not the Lakers’ fault the Bucks and Clippers both lost.

    Ian CunananIan Cunanan23 tuntia sitten
  • You explained what SRS is but not whether or not it is actually a good measurement. Which I don’t think it is.

    CongoCongoPäivä sitten
  • I’m elite

    Reverse24k- -Reverse24k- -Päivä sitten
  • I think in a lot of cases this stat is useless, since it seems like it works a lot like power rankings and doesn’t take in to count an injury in the series and other things to account

    UA FusionsUA FusionsPäivä sitten
  • Numbers don’t tell the whole story for this year’s season. So many other factors to consider

    Nicholas TaralloNicholas TaralloPäivä sitten
  • LeBron dragging the 0.59 SRS 18 Cavs is the greatest carry job in the history of NBA. Don't @ me.

    Rafa AllegrettiRafa AllegrettiPäivä sitten
  • I thought you would mention how 2007 might have been the biggest mismatch ever with the Spurs facing the Cavs.

    flightjamflightjamPäivä sitten
  • Long and Grueling season. Get the hell out of here with tht BS.

    MayjaAudioMayjaAudioPäivä sitten
  • KOBE!!!!!! My maaaan!!!!

    Edidiong EbongEdidiong EbongPäivä sitten
  • Let's not forget raptors won championship with only one superstar and bunch of low draft picks or no picks at all

    Calvin WongCalvin WongPäivä sitten
  • soo this has 666k views ..

    Chris EmmanuelChris EmmanuelPäivä sitten
  • "...and although they arent all built the same they all shine just as bright." Thats just poetry.

    Elemental Livros UsadosElemental Livros UsadosPäivä sitten
  • Don’t understand a shit about basketball, but this guy makes good videos for sure

    OpticalStrafeOpticalStrafePäivä sitten
  • I love the video. But how much can we rely on a stat that says in 2016 a aoon to be championship team was "worse" than the pelicans who blew up there roster with out even a deep run into the playoffs?

    Austin williamsAustin williamsPäivä sitten
    • The pelicans have almost double the rating of a LeBron led team.

      Austin williamsAustin williamsPäivä sitten
  • Sure, the East was considerably weaker than the West when LeBron was reigning there-- although he has proven he could make it all the way in the West... But was that LeBron's fault? Should he be discredited for that? Making the Finals > Losing earlier in the playoffs > Not making the playoffs Whatever the season is, I don't think that simple equation changes.

    Prof TVProf TVPäivä sitten
  • I can’t take a list seriously that has the 2001 Lakers as #2 lol. That chip run was easy as hell for Shaq and Kobe.

    ZxChronoZxChronoPäivä sitten
  • This is why you can't trust stats. The Blazers weren't the typical 8th seed. They were a totally different team from the first half of the season, especially in the bubble. The Blazers lost in 5 but the series was still competitive. Damien Lillard got injured in game 4 and had to sit out the rest of the series. Definitely would have won game 5 with Lillard based on them only losing by 10 points without him. The Rockets weren't a cakewalk. They took a game and all the other games were toss ups. Westbrook was still clearly rusty. The only blowout win by the Lakers was game 5. The stats say the Clippers are better than the Nuggets, but we all know how that got proved wrong. The stats say that the Bucks were the best team in the league, but we know how the Heat fucked that theory. The Lakers beat the Heat that beat the best team in the league based off SRS. So, the Lakers had to beat a high seeded team disguised as an 8th seeded team in the first round. They barely scraped past the Rockets with their second best player clearly rusty. They beat a Nuggets team that was even better than the team that was supposed to beat them, and all the games were close. Then they beat a team in the finals that beat the best team in the league based of SRS. This definitely wasn't an easy championship. You all are saying that Jimmy is really smart and educated, but this man easily got his mind changed by a reddit post using bullshit stats. Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fools who follow him?

    Windex ManWindex ManPäivä sitten
  • This is really one of the greatest detailed video of basketball analysis I have seen in rest memory. Props to you and thank you 🙏🏻

    Othman BelhajOthman BelhajPäivä sitten
  • go cougs with the educational video

    J.KyRei SlaughterJ.KyRei SlaughterPäivä sitten
  • One of the biggest problems with this is that SRS doesn’t perfectly correlate with playoff performance, because the playoffs are just fundamentally different (more aggressive mismatch hunting, better schemes, etc.). That was especially true this year because we basically had an entire off season between the regular season and the playoffs. You can’t use regular season SRS to evaluate the Heat team that made it to the finals because Herro and Nunn weren’t even really rookies anymore (they effectively had a whole off season to improve before the playoffs) and also their line ups were totally different. The same thing was true for the Nuggets-that Nuggets team in the playoffs was just a different, better, team than the Nuggets team from the regular season.

    MattMattPäivä sitten
  • You should do a video on how/why/what were the biggest reasons on the 90’s- early 2000’s being the best competition in NBA history

    Ian BroderickIan BroderickPäivä sitten
  • In my opinion there’s too many holes for this to evaluate anything. The use of SRS in this video is based around record and only record. This means that #1 seeds will always have a lower SRS than lower seeds. This is evident by the fact the Houston Rockets 1995 title is seen as the most difficult ever, when realistically it wasn’t. Houston was a 6 seed that year due to Hakeem being injured. This means they always had to play teams with higher records from the start. They played the 3 seed, then the 2 seed, then the 1 seed. Because they played them teams with such high records, their run was the “hardest”, when really it was just that they had a harder postseason run because they sucked in the regular season. Does that really put an asterisk next to a ring? Playing an 8 seed will always deflate one’s accumulative playoff SRS so does this even matter? Not to mention that it doesn’t account for injuries. The 2019 Toronto Raptors title being labeled as difficult is a joke. That title was won against a Warriors squad that had to sign free agent Andrew Bogut because Kevon Looney broke his collarbone. The fact the Raptors allowed the Warriors to take them to 6 games while starting Shaun Livingston is laughable. The lakers 2020 title is considered easy solely because the Heat made it to the finals, because the Heat had a low regular season record. This doesn’t account for the fact the Heat demolished every team they faced in the east and were a legitimate opponent. If this SRS stat accounted for playoff performance, maybe it would be more accurate. The Heat were not an easy opponent, they handily beat 3 really good teams. That should add to their SRS if we want to be accurate. The Houston Rockets only had one harder round than if they had they been a 2 seed, this doesn’t make their run infinitely harder than all other playoff runs in history, it just means their first round was harder than any other championship team in history. Does that really make it harder than Dirk’s 2011 championship, where he had to beat the Spurs and the Heat to get it? Hakeem had to beat teams with high records but they weren’t nearly as formidable at the one’s Dirk went through. The Rockets swept the Magic in the finals because it was shocking the Magic even got that far. Dirk had to play the 2011 Miami Heat. A championship run is only as impressive as the highest hurdle you had to jump, not how many hurdles you jumped. Jimmy, I love ya, but this video just wasn’t it

    A Sad Hobbit BoyA Sad Hobbit BoyPäivä sitten
  • I find it interesting the 2001 Lakers and 1997 Bulls are on the hardest path to a championship

    William TOADWilliam TOADPäivä sitten
  • 2016 title was the most difficult one, no cap

    andrea riccardiandrea riccardiPäivä sitten
  • Lebron critics... Oh I dont buy into the Fact he went to 10 Straight Finals in the last 10 yrs. I'm like halo 👋 this is the youngest scorer to ever knock 34,000 points in recorded history. Lebron will be a Name to be remembered on the Stat sheet in the decades to come. Difficulty isnt only measured by how good the other Team was but how strong one's Team mates are. 2000-2002 Lakers had Shaq, arguably the Heaviest rim breaker in NBA History. The 2007 Cavaliers road to the Finals was the most Difficult one post 2000. To see how incredible Lebron is statistically, when he was drafted his Team Cavs were 17-65 ( The worst in the NBA) within only 4 yrs he single handedly took them to the Finals by Force. To be Frank, the 2 most electrifying seasons to watch was the 2006/2007 when Cavs shocked everyone by reaching Finals by beating former champs Detroit and the 2016 Finals when they came from 3-1 to win. There will never be another Bron ever so enjoy greatness while we still here and alive to witness. The Bron critics will always be there, when Bron retires there will be no more Tomahawk dunks, and the Bully Man Dunks. KG introduced the forceful dunks with Attitude, Lebron perfected it. No one else in the league with the intensity of KG or Bron. Bron was inspired by Jordan, Magic and KG. Bron is basically a bit of Jordan (complex layups, some dunks), KG (Dunks) and Magic (Passes). Been an honour to still be watching the soon to be NBA's highest scorer of all Time and the youngest scorer and Only player to crush the 40,000 points career barrier

    N.EN.EPäivä sitten
  • ooh kobe is the 🐐 now? 🤔🤔🤔

    iona401 channeliona401 channelPäivä sitten
  • RIP Black Mamba, shining forever!

    Gajanandamani AdhikariGajanandamani AdhikariPäivä sitten
  • This low-key Lebron hate

    Elevens TravelsElevens TravelsPäivä sitten
  • What exactly makes the damn path easier u act like them niggas control who they play

    Elevens TravelsElevens TravelsPäivä sitten
  • Jimmy pls stop you are subjective not objective.Let me stop at 2:24 mental toughness is not even in this stat. Let half of these commenters try and have a 90days quarantine without seeing your family and racial killings in the backdrop w families reaching out to them. Ppl go crazy when they have 1week lockdown let alone 90days. Take that in account and this was one of the hardest to win. The clippers broke down because of that the bubble had an impact on many of them. Then secondly the stats say nothing about the clear unravelling overperformance of the so called"underdog" teams w guys averaging 50 per game! They emerged and showed their actual capacity. The fact that the lakers made it look easy doesnt mean the other teams lacked talent. They simply were just that good especially on defense. Another stat. If you want a hit a dog you will always find a stick. I do agree on the ring debate which is bogus af (In that case bill russell is nr1.) ppl just need to learn to appreciate.

    SalomoSalomoPäivä sitten
  • This video was so 🔥

    Ronnel WebbRonnel WebbPäivä sitten
  • Do SRS ratings of Jordan’s finals opponents vs Lebron’s finals opponents.

    916 neighborhood watch916 neighborhood watchPäivä sitten
  • The clippers choked. So the lakers didn’t play them. It literally was a 3 team run. Bucks and clippers choked.

    Petrit TakeashitPetrit TakeashitPäivä sitten
  • Awesome video. And how you crunched the numbers. Just wished you would have added injuries. Like warriors in 2015. Best pelicans first round with no jru holiday. 2nd round without Mike Conley first few games and no Tony Allen. 3rd round Houston Berkeley missed all games hurt. And finals round. No Kevin love and kyrie out for series after 1st game. Thats just an example of how much it can change the numbers. Not to mention injuries in the regular season as well

    dfrinscodfrinscoPäivä sitten
  • Celtics should’ve beat the heat we won’t be having this narrative

    Anthony PepparsAnthony PepparsPäivä sitten
  • Shouldn’t you also consider how good the team that won was? Because if you factor in a team with a smaller srs that beat better teams that should also count

    juan thompsonjuan thompsonPäivä sitten
  • Kobe/Shaq the GOAT 😂

    Andre NealeAndre NealePäivä sitten
  • This video must reach SkiPPPP

    Hail Percy FilmsHail Percy FilmsPäivä sitten
  • I mean I don’t think regular season srs is reliable - the bucks lost second round, the clippers lost 2nd round, the heat made the finals and the lakers won. 2nd edit: this takes in the degree of difficulty for a team, not individual players on the team. If players don’t play their roles(as well as they did in the regular season) the difficulty is skewed within the team(or more skewed compared to before the playoffs).

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  • In theory makes sense but... Playoffs is a WHOLE different ballgame

    Aaron HillyerAaron HillyerPäivä sitten
  • There are some things that this does not take into account. Jusuf Nurkic did not play this whole year until the Bubble. If he had played the whole year, the Blazers would have been considerably better rated. Also, the Heat were easily playing their best basketball in the playoffs. They may have not have been ranked very high, but they beat a few teams who were. This also does not take into account that the Lakers were missing one of their starters the whole playoffs. I would say this year had a pretty average difficulty for the champions.

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  • Lebron's stans are triggered

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  • This is super innacurate.. All it means is that the West and the East teams were extremely tight this season. The Lakers only had an SRS of 6.28. Clippers were 6.77 and they lost to Nuggets who were 2.35 yet finished Third in the West with the next 4 teams only 2 loses behind them. If anything this was one of the toughest seasons to win because the teams were so tight. When the teams are that tight it makes the SRS scores impossible to be higher. That Rockets 95 season the league 13 teams with negative SRS and the rest were super low with 3 ultra teams (Bulls being 10 in an extremely weak East) With that being said looking at this season it would have been almost impossible for the Lakers to get a score higher than 20 unless they played themselves. and if they would have played Milwaukee in the finals their score would have been bumped to top 15 SRS. I am not saying that the Lakers have had the toughest run ever; it's just this system is flawed

    Jordi OrtepiJordi OrtepiPäivä sitten
  • Mavs run coming in at #6 shows how incredible Dirk was that season

    vbddfy euuytvbddfy euuytPäivä sitten
  • I have no idea how kobe's championships were meant to be that difficult, he had prime shaq on his team.

    Raging BabyRaging BabyPäivä sitten
  • wow... them 01 lakers were so much better than all others... didn't realize that till seeing this. thanks.

    Karl WarnerKarl WarnerPäivä sitten
  • A dollar is a dollar. A ring is a ring.

    Autocross RacerAutocross RacerPäivä sitten
    • championship team played, mean that the era was more competitive?

      vbddfy euuytvbddfy euuytPäivä sitten
  • This is why Kobe is the Goat. The West is always difficult.

    C.I.A The Central Intelligence AgencyC.I.A The Central Intelligence AgencyPäivä sitten
  • How is his win over the 73 win Dubs not higher?

    Swift GigzSwift GigzPäivä sitten
  • I think this is a super flawed way of measuring this. It doesn’t take into account the strength of the team that won, injuries, and by accumulating srs scores, 4 average teams will level out to the same as 2 elite and 2 horrid teams. But facing 4 average is usually much easier for an elite championship team

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  • Why is it not like mixed, all the teams that make the playoffs can face any team? wouldn't that be more fun to watch too? just remove the conference.

    Damiano MezzanotteDamiano MezzanottePäivä sitten
  • This just shows how great the western conference is compare to the east

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  • Def Lebron 2016 fasho

    Smosh has skillsSmosh has skillsPäivä sitten
  • this the most bogus stat i done seen out there

    Kahpito 100kKahpito 100kPäivä sitten
  • As a raps fan, I'm just glad we got that sexy ring

    Parsa RathernotsayParsa RathernotsayPäivä sitten
  • The numbers don’t tel the whole story

    Kal's TubeKal's TubePäivä sitten
  • I don’t trust these charts bc some of the warriors run we’re based off of injuries lebron a title this year was ranked lower but they were bad in the regular season but they were really good in the bubble

    Maynor YanezMaynor YanezPäivä sitten
  • this is flawed. Does not take into account injuries or other circumstances like the bubble and global pandemic. It was a nice thought and relatively good video but casual sports fans will run with this video and think it actually proves something.

    xUniqueDrugsxxUniqueDrugsxPäivä sitten
  • Hey man it wasn’t really that easy it was just the lakers were the best team

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  • NBA has a history that is much larger than the last 35 years. You should have compare it to the 76ers or Celtics even if wasn´t on a 16 team´s playoff

    Guilad ShmayaGuilad ShmayaPäivä sitten
  • 1967 Sixers had the hardest run

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